Comments on: OmniGraffle 5.0 beta 1 is now available http://blog.omnigroup.com/2007/11/30/omnigraffle-50-beta-1-is-now-available/ The Omni Mouth: standing outside your bedroom window playing \"In Your Eyes\" since 2006. Mon, 08 Sep 2008 01:34:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: Doug http://blog.omnigroup.com/2007/11/30/omnigraffle-50-beta-1-is-now-available/#comment-63958 Doug Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:42:40 +0000 http://blog.omnigroup.com/2007/11/30/omnigraffle-50-beta-1-is-now-available/#comment-63958 Ken: So ... if I had OG4 and upgraded right now to OG4Pro, I could get OG5 for $49.95, but if I already own OG4Pro (and, therefore, have nowhere to upgrade), OG5 is going to cost me $99.95? I'm not sure you've thought that through. Ken: So … if I had OG4 and upgraded right now to OG4Pro, I could get OG5 for $49.95, but if I already own OG4Pro (and, therefore, have nowhere to upgrade), OG5 is going to cost me $99.95? I’m not sure you’ve thought that through.

]]> By: Ken Case http://blog.omnigroup.com/2007/11/30/omnigraffle-50-beta-1-is-now-available/#comment-63937 Ken Case Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:40:52 +0000 http://blog.omnigroup.com/2007/11/30/omnigraffle-50-beta-1-is-now-available/#comment-63937 Eddie: The way we determined the upgrade price was to let you preserve 2/3rds of the cost of your OmniGraffle 4 Pro purchase by giving it back as a discount. OmniGraffle 4 Pro cost $149.95, and 2/3rds of $149.95 is ~$100, resulting in the upgrade price of $99.95. Of course, that's for the Pro edition; the Standard upgrade is only $39.95. DGentry: Any purchases of OmniGraffle 4 Pro made now will get a free upgrade to OmniGraffle 5 Pro when it ships, so your cheapest option is to upgrade to OmniGraffle 4 Pro now for $49.95 (taking advantage of the free upgrade to 5). Eddie: The way we determined the upgrade price was to let you preserve 2/3rds of the cost of your OmniGraffle 4 Pro purchase by giving it back as a discount. OmniGraffle 4 Pro cost $149.95, and 2/3rds of $149.95 is ~$100, resulting in the upgrade price of $99.95. Of course, that’s for the Pro edition; the Standard upgrade is only $39.95.

DGentry: Any purchases of OmniGraffle 4 Pro made now will get a free upgrade to OmniGraffle 5 Pro when it ships, so your cheapest option is to upgrade to OmniGraffle 4 Pro now for $49.95 (taking advantage of the free upgrade to 5).

]]> By: DGentry http://blog.omnigroup.com/2007/11/30/omnigraffle-50-beta-1-is-now-available/#comment-63932 DGentry Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:34:43 +0000 http://blog.omnigroup.com/2007/11/30/omnigraffle-50-beta-1-is-now-available/#comment-63932 "...with upgrades from OmniGraffle 4 Professional costing $99.95" Can you announce the upgrade price from Omnigraffle Pro 3? If not a final price, can you commit that it will not be more than $149.90 (the cost of OG3Pro->OG4Pro plus OG4Pro->OG5Pro) ? I currently use OG3Pro. I'd like to get OG4Pro soon so I can install Leopard, but not if it will cost me more money than would going directly to OG5Pro next year. “…with upgrades from OmniGraffle 4 Professional costing $99.95″

Can you announce the upgrade price from Omnigraffle Pro 3? If not a final price, can you commit that it will not be more than $149.90 (the cost of OG3Pro->OG4Pro plus OG4Pro->OG5Pro) ?

I currently use OG3Pro. I’d like to get OG4Pro soon so I can install Leopard, but not if it will cost me more money than would going directly to OG5Pro next year.

]]> By: Eddie http://blog.omnigroup.com/2007/11/30/omnigraffle-50-beta-1-is-now-available/#comment-63911 Eddie Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:40:55 +0000 http://blog.omnigroup.com/2007/11/30/omnigraffle-50-beta-1-is-now-available/#comment-63911 @Doug, For mind mapping you may also want to consider Xmind Pro, particularly based on the discounted prices at MacUpdate. It’s not as nice looking as Omni’s products, and lacks some features that the Omni products provide (e.g., nice interface, alignment guides, etc.) but so far it has worked for me. I switched to it from Nova Mind since Nova Mind’s upgrade price was too expensive IMHO. I have to say that I have the same feeling regarding Omni Graffle Pro‘s upgrade fee. $100 is a bit too much for me, so I’ll probably stay with version 4. I think I’ve used it since version 2 or 3, and can’t recall an upgrade being this expensive. :( Having said that, I love Omni and their products, have recommended them for many years, and currently have OmniOutliner 3 Pro, OmniWeb 5, OmniFocus, and OmniPlan. @Doug,
For mind mapping you may also want to consider Xmind Pro, particularly based on the discounted prices at MacUpdate. It’s not as nice looking as Omni’s products, and lacks some features that the Omni products provide (e.g., nice interface, alignment guides, etc.) but so far it has worked for me. I switched to it from Nova Mind since Nova Mind’s upgrade price was too expensive IMHO.

I have to say that I have the same feeling regarding Omni Graffle Pro‘s upgrade fee. $100 is a bit too much for me, so I’ll probably stay with version 4. I think I’ve used it since version 2 or 3, and can’t recall an upgrade being this expensive. :(
Having said that, I love Omni and their products, have recommended them for many years, and currently have OmniOutliner 3 Pro, OmniWeb 5, OmniFocus, and OmniPlan.

]]> By: Caminews » Omnigraffle per Leopard http://blog.omnigroup.com/2007/11/30/omnigraffle-50-beta-1-is-now-available/#comment-63891 Caminews » Omnigraffle per Leopard Wed, 05 Dec 2007 11:41:32 +0000 http://blog.omnigroup.com/2007/11/30/omnigraffle-50-beta-1-is-now-available/#comment-63891 [...] di questi giorni la notizia del rilascio della prima beta della versione 5 di Omnigraffle, che promette diversi miglioramenti all’interfaccia utente e alla generazione [...] […] di questi giorni la notizia del rilascio della prima beta della versione 5 di Omnigraffle, che promette diversi miglioramenti all’interfaccia utente e alla generazione […]

]]> By: dijk182 http://blog.omnigroup.com/2007/11/30/omnigraffle-50-beta-1-is-now-available/#comment-63884 dijk182 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 10:47:56 +0000 http://blog.omnigroup.com/2007/11/30/omnigraffle-50-beta-1-is-now-available/#comment-63884 [quote]Any OmniGraffle 4 purchases made on or after October 31 will receive a free upgrade to OmniGraffle 5 when it ships in early 2008.[/quote] Sweet. Now I might as well upgrade to 5 pro, instead of standard then :) [quote]Any OmniGraffle 4 purchases made on or after October 31 will receive a free upgrade to OmniGraffle 5 when it ships in early 2008.[/quote]
Sweet. Now I might as well upgrade to 5 pro, instead of standard then :)

]]> By: Court Kizer http://blog.omnigroup.com/2007/11/30/omnigraffle-50-beta-1-is-now-available/#comment-63883 Court Kizer Tue, 04 Dec 2007 10:05:05 +0000 http://blog.omnigroup.com/2007/11/30/omnigraffle-50-beta-1-is-now-available/#comment-63883 Omnigraffle and my anger has cost me a MacBook Pro. I cannot believe for the life of me that we are now up to version 5 and there is NO COMMAND to "Paste in Place". I got so angry trying to put together a wireframe and copying & pasting elements, that I tossed my MacBook Pro off of my 3rd story balcony. Omnigraffle and my anger has cost me a MacBook Pro. I cannot believe for the life of me that we are now up to version 5 and there is NO COMMAND to “Paste in Place”. I got so angry trying to put together a wireframe and copying & pasting elements, that I tossed my MacBook Pro off of my 3rd story balcony.

]]> By: Doug http://blog.omnigroup.com/2007/11/30/omnigraffle-50-beta-1-is-now-available/#comment-63878 Doug Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:27:43 +0000 http://blog.omnigroup.com/2007/11/30/omnigraffle-50-beta-1-is-now-available/#comment-63878 The upgrade pricing to Pro is, um, a bit steeper than I imagined. But OK. Now to get me to upgrade, how much more robust are you going to make the mind-mapping features of OG5? With OG4, I often find myself looking longingly at MindJet's products, and I still go into Inspiration for quick brainstorming. If I could do more in OG5 with mind-mapping, the upgrade price is no biggie. The upgrade pricing to Pro is, um, a bit steeper than I imagined. But OK. Now to get me to upgrade, how much more robust are you going to make the mind-mapping features of OG5? With OG4, I often find myself looking longingly at MindJet’s products, and I still go into Inspiration for quick brainstorming. If I could do more in OG5 with mind-mapping, the upgrade price is no biggie.

]]> By: Ken Case http://blog.omnigroup.com/2007/11/30/omnigraffle-50-beta-1-is-now-available/#comment-63877 Ken Case Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:54:10 +0000 http://blog.omnigroup.com/2007/11/30/omnigraffle-50-beta-1-is-now-available/#comment-63877 Please report bugs by selecting Send Feedback from the Help menu, or by sending email to omnigraffle@omnigroup.com. Thanks! Please report bugs by selecting Send Feedback from the Help menu, or by sending email to omnigraffle@omnigroup.com.

Thanks!

]]> By: Dave Scott http://blog.omnigroup.com/2007/11/30/omnigraffle-50-beta-1-is-now-available/#comment-63876 Dave Scott Mon, 03 Dec 2007 10:15:30 +0000 http://blog.omnigroup.com/2007/11/30/omnigraffle-50-beta-1-is-now-available/#comment-63876 Not sure where to report bugs but: opened a Visio diagram with the beta - worked fine. Exported it as a Visio xml file and got a error message ....... {http://schemas.mirosoft.com/visio/2003/core}Shape expecting {http://schemas.mirosoft.com/visio/2003/core}Shapes subtle - but seems there is an 's' missing Not sure where to report bugs but:

opened a Visio diagram with the beta - worked fine. Exported it as a Visio xml file and got a error message …….

{http://schemas.mirosoft.com/visio/2003/core}Shape

expecting

{http://schemas.mirosoft.com/visio/2003/core}Shapes

subtle - but seems there is an ’s’ missing

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