Comments on: New! (ish) version of OmniDiskSweeper http://blog.omnigroup.com/2006/04/06/new-ish-version-of-omnidisksweeper/ The Omni Mouth: standing outside your bedroom window playing \"In Your Eyes\" since 2006. Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:16:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Michael Rothe http://blog.omnigroup.com/2006/04/06/new-ish-version-of-omnidisksweeper/#comment-242 Michael Rothe Tue, 02 May 2006 19:06:25 +0000 http://blog.omnigroup.com/2006/04/06/new-ish-version-of-omnidisksweeper/#comment-242 Will there ever come a universal binary of ONI? Will there ever come a universal binary of ONI?

]]> By: MacStansbury http://blog.omnigroup.com/2006/04/06/new-ish-version-of-omnidisksweeper/#comment-60 MacStansbury Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:55:42 +0000 http://blog.omnigroup.com/2006/04/06/new-ish-version-of-omnidisksweeper/#comment-60 less talk, more snakes and planes per chance, placing said snakes <em>on</em> the plane or, <a href="http://www.snakesonablog.com/" rel="nofollow"> on a blog</a> less talk, more snakes

and planes

per chance, placing said snakes on the plane

or, on a blog

]]> By: Chad http://blog.omnigroup.com/2006/04/06/new-ish-version-of-omnidisksweeper/#comment-59 Chad Sat, 08 Apr 2006 03:03:06 +0000 http://blog.omnigroup.com/2006/04/06/new-ish-version-of-omnidisksweeper/#comment-59 I'm glad to see that ODS has been updated (after so many years), but the interface wasn't updated much, so it still has an older feel to it still. I think some of the buttons and such need to be updated and changed so it feels a little more "Mac-like", in accordance to Year 2006 standards. And what about allowing secure removal for file deletion? Or perhaps even the option to erase an optical (& rewritable) disc? Good thing that there is a nifty app (like Permanent Eraser) which already does some of those things, but wouldn't it be great if some of those wonderful features were integrated into OmniDiskSweeper? I think they would, but hey, I'm biased! I’m glad to see that ODS has been updated (after so many years), but the interface wasn’t updated much, so it still has an older feel to it still. I think some of the buttons and such need to be updated and changed so it feels a little more “Mac-like”, in accordance to Year 2006 standards.

And what about allowing secure removal for file deletion? Or perhaps even the option to erase an optical (& rewritable) disc?

Good thing that there is a nifty app (like Permanent Eraser) which already does some of those things, but wouldn’t it be great if some of those wonderful features were integrated into OmniDiskSweeper? I think they would, but hey, I’m biased!

]]> By: Robert Jung http://blog.omnigroup.com/2006/04/06/new-ish-version-of-omnidisksweeper/#comment-55 Robert Jung Fri, 07 Apr 2006 18:06:46 +0000 http://blog.omnigroup.com/2006/04/06/new-ish-version-of-omnidisksweeper/#comment-55 Hey, if we're gonna go off-topic, where's the Universal Binary version of <b>Oni?</b> Konoko's gotta kick arse on Intel, too, y'know... --R.J. Hey, if we’re gonna go off-topic, where’s the Universal Binary version of Oni? Konoko’s gotta kick arse on Intel, too, y’know…

–R.J.

]]> By: Cameron Hayne http://blog.omnigroup.com/2006/04/06/new-ish-version-of-omnidisksweeper/#comment-54 Cameron Hayne Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:59:05 +0000 http://blog.omnigroup.com/2006/04/06/new-ish-version-of-omnidisksweeper/#comment-54 Yes, doing: sudo /Applications/OmniDiskSweeper.app/Contents/MacOS/OmniDiskSweeper is a good idea as it is much nicer than using 'du'. However that of course would have the whole of OmniDiskSweeper running as 'root' and this is a bad idea for any GUI app since such apps are big and complicated and thus it is much harder to avoid security holes. I'm sure you know all of this and plan to use a small command-line helper utility (that would run as 'root' after authentication) to get the file size info instead of having the whole app running with 'root' privileges. I also note that if I wanted to run OmniDiskSweeper as 'root', I could use the 3rd-party utility "Pseudo" to run it instead of having to use the command-line. Yes, doing:
sudo /Applications/OmniDiskSweeper.app/Contents/MacOS/OmniDiskSweeper
is a good idea as it is much nicer than using ‘du’.
However that of course would have the whole of OmniDiskSweeper running as ‘root’ and this is a bad idea for any GUI app since such apps are big and complicated and thus it is much harder to avoid security holes. I’m sure you know all of this and plan to use a small command-line helper utility (that would run as ‘root’ after authentication) to get the file size info instead of having the whole app running with ‘root’ privileges.

I also note that if I wanted to run OmniDiskSweeper as ‘root’, I could use the 3rd-party utility “Pseudo” to run it instead of having to use the command-line.

]]> By: mando http://blog.omnigroup.com/2006/04/06/new-ish-version-of-omnidisksweeper/#comment-53 mando Fri, 07 Apr 2006 15:41:15 +0000 http://blog.omnigroup.com/2006/04/06/new-ish-version-of-omnidisksweeper/#comment-53 Hey hey hey, people your forgetting the important stuff. SNAKES ON A ^*&&iIN PLANE!!! It's definitely on my next action list! Hey hey hey, people your forgetting the important stuff. SNAKES ON A ^*&&iIN PLANE!!!

It’s definitely on my next action list!

]]> By: Ken http://blog.omnigroup.com/2006/04/06/new-ish-version-of-omnidisksweeper/#comment-52 Ken Fri, 07 Apr 2006 15:16:55 +0000 http://blog.omnigroup.com/2006/04/06/new-ish-version-of-omnidisksweeper/#comment-52 Cameron, allowing the user to authenticate as an administrator to view all of the files on the disk is definitely something we want to add to the product. But if you're comfortable (or at least willing) to drop down to a Terminal window to sudo anyway, you can always sudo OmniDiskSweeper itself (rather than "du") to give it read access to your entire system: sudo /Applications/OmniDiskSweeper.app/Contents/MacOS/OmniDiskSweeper Again, this isn't the ideal solution (we want to add authentication to the application itself), but it's at least nicer than "sudo du"! By the way, one of OmniDiskSweeper's unique features is that it lists the packages which reference a file so that you can see which packages will be affected if you remove it. And other than the new on-screen help: OmniDiskSweeper 1.5 is now a Universal Binary. We've added the ability to resize individual columns (by dragging them, just like in Columns mode in the Finder). The licensing system now supports fast user switching. You can now contact our tech support team by selecting "Send Feedback..." from the Help menu (just like you can in all our other apps). We've fixed all known crashes. (Thanks to everyone who sent in the rare crash report!) Cameron, allowing the user to authenticate as an administrator to view all of the files on the disk is definitely something we want to add to the product. But if you’re comfortable (or at least willing) to drop down to a Terminal window to sudo anyway, you can always sudo OmniDiskSweeper itself (rather than “du”) to give it read access to your entire system:

sudo /Applications/OmniDiskSweeper.app/Contents/MacOS/OmniDiskSweeper

Again, this isn’t the ideal solution (we want to add authentication to the application itself), but it’s at least nicer than “sudo du”!

By the way, one of OmniDiskSweeper’s unique features is that it lists the packages which reference a file so that you can see which packages will be affected if you remove it.

And other than the new on-screen help:

OmniDiskSweeper 1.5 is now a Universal Binary.

We’ve added the ability to resize individual columns (by dragging them, just like in Columns mode in the Finder).

The licensing system now supports fast user switching.

You can now contact our tech support team by selecting “Send Feedback…” from the Help menu (just like you can in all our other apps).

We’ve fixed all known crashes. (Thanks to everyone who sent in the rare crash report!)

]]> By: Cameron Hayne http://blog.omnigroup.com/2006/04/06/new-ish-version-of-omnidisksweeper/#comment-48 Cameron Hayne Fri, 07 Apr 2006 02:26:14 +0000 http://blog.omnigroup.com/2006/04/06/new-ish-version-of-omnidisksweeper/#comment-48 Maybe I'm missing something but I have looked and I haven't seen a way with OmniDiskSweeper to look at <i>all</i> of the files on the hard disk. It seems only able to tell you about the space taken up by the files that your user account has permission to read. Nothing too surprising about that on the surface - but why doesn't it have an option to ask for the admin password so it can look at all of the files? One common problem I've had to advise people on is when a bunch of disk space is taken up by detritus left over from a failed disk cloning operation. These files are often owned by root and unreadable by ordinary users. So I've had to advise people to use the command-line method: sudo du -h -d 1 and then recurse down the folders manually to find the disk hogs. I'd much rather recommend them to use OmniDiskSweeper. Maybe I’m missing something but I have looked and I haven’t seen a way with OmniDiskSweeper to look at all of the files on the hard disk. It seems only able to tell you about the space taken up by the files that your user account has permission to read. Nothing too surprising about that on the surface - but why doesn’t it have an option to ask for the admin password so it can look at all of the files?

One common problem I’ve had to advise people on is when a bunch of disk space is taken up by detritus left over from a failed disk cloning operation. These files are often owned by root and unreadable by ordinary users. So I’ve had to advise people to use the command-line method:
sudo du -h -d 1
and then recurse down the folders manually to find the disk hogs.

I’d much rather recommend them to use OmniDiskSweeper.

]]> By: MARC http://blog.omnigroup.com/2006/04/06/new-ish-version-of-omnidisksweeper/#comment-46 MARC Fri, 07 Apr 2006 00:33:38 +0000 http://blog.omnigroup.com/2006/04/06/new-ish-version-of-omnidisksweeper/#comment-46 Linda: I rather meant the newsletters. It's kind of hard to figure out the real news. :-) Linda: I rather meant the newsletters. It’s kind of hard to figure out the real news. :-)

]]> By: Chucky http://blog.omnigroup.com/2006/04/06/new-ish-version-of-omnidisksweeper/#comment-44 Chucky Thu, 06 Apr 2006 22:35:10 +0000 http://blog.omnigroup.com/2006/04/06/new-ish-version-of-omnidisksweeper/#comment-44 Well, since off-topic seems to be the vibe of this thread, I'll offer my wishlist for new versions of OmniWeb: 1) Some method to make site specific prefs force a website to observe my font prefs. For example, I'd prefer to read nytimes.com in a sans-serif font, but no matter what my prefs are, the site overrides them and gives me a serif font. 2) Spotlight enabled bookmarks (of course). 3) Spotlight enabled history. (Considering that it'd be disk and resource intensive, there should be a way to turn that feature off too.) 4) Ability to read and write .webarchives. Well, since off-topic seems to be the vibe of this thread, I’ll offer my wishlist for new versions of OmniWeb:

1) Some method to make site specific prefs force a website to observe my font prefs. For example, I’d prefer to read nytimes.com in a sans-serif font, but no matter what my prefs are, the site overrides them and gives me a serif font.

2) Spotlight enabled bookmarks (of course).

3) Spotlight enabled history. (Considering that it’d be disk and resource intensive, there should be a way to turn that feature off too.)

4) Ability to read and write .webarchives.

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